MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF
“INDIA POSTS’ RETIRED OFFICERS’ ASSOCIATION” DATED 24/02/2018.
The
meeting of “India Posts’ Retired Officers’ Association” was held on Saturday
the 24th February 2018 at 03.0 p.m. in the Conference Hall of Dadar
Inspection Quarters (I.Q.) Dadar H.O. Building 5th floor Dadar
(East) Mumbai 400014 under the Chairmanship of Shri R Ganesan Ex-Secretary to
Government of India, Director General, Department of Posts India,
New-Delhi-110001 and President of the Association.
2.
Following members of Association were
present in the meeting.
1. Ms Humera Ahmed------------ Vice-
President
2.
Shri V L Raichur ---------------
Vice- President
3.
Shri U. P.C. Tauro----------------Secretary
4.
Shri R.K. Joshi---------------------Treasurer
5.
Shri S V Narayankar--------------Org. Secretary
6.
Shri S.P.Sardal---------------------Member
7. Shri
A.V.Pathak------------------- Member
8.
Shri G.T.
Raut-------------------- Member
9.
Shri Bachhan Prasad-------------Member
10.
Shri P.T. Badgujar---------------
Member
11.
Shri P.M.Shirsat------------------ Member
12. Shri
P.V.Mathure------------------Member
13. Shri P.K.Shelke ------------------Member
14
Shri P.R.Meshram-----------------Member
15.
Shri V.M.Dekate ------------ Member
16
Shri V.S.Jagtap-------------------- Member
17 Shri
D.P.Sukhsohale------------ Member
18
Shri A.R.Pund -------------------
Member
19
Shri A.A.Zoal
------------------ Member
20
Smt K.Saraswathi --------- Member
21
Shri R.L.Modi ------------------Member
22.
Shri L.A.Dahatonde--------------Member
23.
Shri P.R.Parodhi-------------------Member.
3.
At the outset, two minutes silence was
observed by the members in condolence of late Shri Deish,Former Member PSB New Delhi
who expired on 05/01/2018.
4.
Shri S.P. Sardal, Anchor, welcomed all
attending members including President and Vice-President present in the
meeting. He welcomed the outstation members who had come all the way from Pune,
Amraoti & Jalgaon.
5.
Shri S.P.Sardal was felicitated by handing over bouquet at
the hands of President of our Association on attaining age of 75 years(
Platinum Jubilee) and wished him long life.
6. The Secretary specifically introduced and
welcomed the following new members who came from Pune, Amraoti and attended the
meeting first time. All members present in the meeting also joined in welcoming
them.
1.
Shri P.K.Shelke
2
Shri A.R.Pund
3
Shri A.A.Zoal
4.
Shri L.A.Dahatonde
7.
The book on the autobiography of Advocate Anil Pathak titled “Shunyatun
Abhyudayakade” was released by the President of the Association. The copies of
the book were circulated amongst the members. Secretary gave a brief on
Advocate Anil Pathak. Ms Humera Ahmed Vice President of the Association
requested Anil Pathak to provide English Translation of some of the important
events.
8.
Shri U.P.C. Tauro, Secretary of the
Association informed all the members that the minutes of the last meeting held
on 4th November at the Conference
Hall of Dadar IQ, Dadar HO building 5th floor Dadar (East) Mumbai
400014 were circulated to all members through what’s app as well as
through e mail & also posted in Associations’ Blog www.iproamh.com.
As such the minutes of the last AGM were got ratified unanimously.
9. While
welcoming all members present in the meeting, Shri R Ganesan, President of the
Association in his key note address, welcomed the outstation members who were
attending the meeting first time. He also mentioned that he had sent a message
on what’s App on the previous day explaining the purpose of the meetings. It
was reiterated that the meetings are expected to fill the vacuum post
retirement. You enjoy these gatherings laughing, chatting etc. Though it is for
a couple of hours only, it relives our past friends memories, relieves us of
some mental stress that may gather in us, without our volition. After
retirement we live in isolation in our flats surrounded by our families. He
also explained that when we visit Banks we don’t feel anything whereas when we
visit Post Office if staff looks at you as a stranger you feel uncomfortable.
Despite what’s App message only a handful showed up to the meeting. As such he
proposed to restrict our meetings to, two in a year instead of present three. One
AGM and the other Annual day where the Platinum Jubilee Members will be
felicitated. This was deliberated. It was unanimously decided to continue with 3 meetings in a year in the mornings with
Lunch by contribution from members, AGM in Mumbai, second one combined with
picnic, with fun filled activities so that members get encouragement to
participate actively. The third will be decided depending upon the
participants.
As there are 108 outstation members it
was proposed to have Regional Secretaries of 4 Regions. They will function
within scope of Bye-laws of IPROA. The roles and responsibilities of Regional Secretaries
will be formulated separately and circulated after getting these cleared by the
EC, then the GB.
Secretary was asked to get the
nominations from the Regions and get approval from the Executive Committee. The nominations will be ratified in the coming
AGM . Till then they will function
on the analogy of pretem Speaker. The Regional Secretaries will conduct 2
meetings in their Region. Members of other Regions will be free to attend these
meetings. However the AGM will be
held in Mumbai.
10. Ms
Humera Ahmed Vice President of the Association showed her concern on the
non-attendance of some of the members who had attended a wedding in the
morning. She also showed her desire to see more attendance of Officers from
R.M.S.
11. On the receipt & payment “revision of pension “on notional pay as per
DOPT orders dated 12/05/2017 was deliberated in detail amongst all members. The
4th para of said Office Memorandum was reiterated by the Secretary. Wherein it has been specified that the
revised pension/family pension w.e.f 01/01/2016, may be revised by notionally
fixing their pay in the pay matrix recommended by the 7th CPC in the
level corresponding to the pay in the pay scale /pay band and grade pay at
which they retired /died. It was also told that the matter of “revision of
pension “on notional pay was taken up with CPMG Maharashtra Circle Mumbai. It
was replied by CPMG Maharashtra Circle Mumbai stating that it will take at
least 2 months. Since most of the attending members had not received the
“revision of pension” orders it was unanimously decided to remind to CPMG
Maharashtra Circle Mumbai. Secretary will prepare the Draft & circulate it
to the Executive Committee for
their comments. It was also suggested by the Secretary that the Officers having
email can lodge complaint in PG PORTAL.GOV.IN/PENSION Department of Pension
& Pensioners’ Welfare as in this portal only individual grievances on
pension can be lodged. It was pointed out by Smt K.Saraswathi that though she
had received the Revised Pension Order from DA (P) Nagpur, the arrears have not
been drawn by Mumbai GPO. It was unanimously decided to write to CPMG
Maharashtra Circle Mumbai. Secretary will prepare the Draft & circulate it
to the Executive Committee for
their comments.
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. Non-Functional Financial Up gradation in respect of Supdt of Post Offices
from level 8 (G.P.4800) to Level 9 (G.P.5400) after 4 years of Service was
discussed. It was explained by the Secretary that on implementation of 6th
Pay Commission Recommendations Para No.7.6.14 of the report, Part C of Central
Civil Services (Revised Pay) Rules 2008 has allowed non-financial up gradation
from Grade Pay 4800 to 5400 to the Supdt of POs after 4 years of service.
The case was first filed by Shri M.
Subramaniam Inspector of Central Excise in CAT Madras Bench OA No 167of
2009 to grant the grade pay of Rs 5400/-
and consequential benefits with effect from 01/01/2008 as per the orders of GOI
accepting the recommendations of the Sixth Central Pay Commission. This was
dismissed on 19/04/2010.Challenging the said order he filed Writ Petition No
13225 of 2010 in the Madras High Court. The Hon’ble High Court vide order dated
06/09/2010 allowed the Writ Petition setting aside the order of the Tribunal
,dated 19/04/2010 passed in OA No 167 of 2009 and directed to extend the
benefits of grade pay of Rs 5400/- to the petitioner from 01/01/2008.The
Hon’ble High Court had held that the Government of India , having accepted the
recommendations of the 6th Pay Commission ,issued a resolution dated
29/08/2008 granting grade pay of Rs 5400/-to the Group B Officers in pay band 2
on non –functional basis after 4 years of regular service in the grade pay of
Rs 4800/-in pay band -2. Therefore, denial of the same benefit to the
petitioner based on the clarification issued by the Under Secretary to the
Govt. was contrary to the above said clarification and without amending the
rules of the revised pay scale, such decision cannot be taken. This was
challenged by the Union of India in Supreme Court vide Civil Appeal No
8883/2011.The Hon’ble Supreme Court vide order dated 10./10/2017 without seeing
any ground to interfere with the impugned orders dismissed the appeal and also
the Special Leave petitions filed by the Union of India. As per the Department
of Posts was concerned the Secretary cited the OA No 296 of 2014 filed in CAT
Hyderabad Bench by the ASPOs/ SPOs of AP. Circle. This was decided on
14/09/2015 allowing the respondents to grant the benefits as granted in OA No
1051/2010 decided on 30/03/2015.In the said order it was held that the decision
of the Madras High Court is applicable to the facts of the present case with
all force, as here also, the applicants herein have been placed in grade pay of
Rs 4800/-and have completed 4 years in that scale, may be, on account of
granting only ACP and not on account of promotion. As such, the OA is liable to
be allowed and the Applicants shall be granted higher pay scale of Rs
5400/-with effect from their respective dates of completion of regular service
of four years in the grade pay of Rs 4800/- (pre revised scale of Rs
7500-12000/-) It was further informed by the Secretary that this matter has
been taken up by the Postal Officers’ Association with the Secretary (Post) requesting
grant of Non-Functional Grade Pay of Rs 5400/- to all IP/ASP/PS Group B
Officers effective from the date they have completed 4 years regular service in
Grade Pay of Rs 4800/- Reply is awaited.
13.
The granting of benefits of MACPS with
effect from 01/01/2006 was deliberated. It was explained by the Secretary that
the Hon’ble Supreme Court of India vide order dated 08/12/2017 in Civil Appeal
Diary No 3744 of 2016 while disposing of the Applications filed by Union of
India has held that they are concerned with the interpretation of the Resolution
of the Government which clearly state that the recommendations of 6th
CPC as modified and accepted by the Central Government in so far as they relate
to pay structure, pay scales, grade pay etc. will apply from 01/01/2006.The
intention of the Government was clear that this scheme which is part of the pay
structure would apply from 01/01/2006.We may also point out that the Resolution
dated 30/08/2008 whereby the recommendation of the Pay Commission has been
accepted with modifications and recommendations with regard to pay structure,
pay scales, grade pay etc have been made applicable from 01/01/2006. This is a
decision of the Cabinet. This decision could not have been modified by issuing
executive instruction. It was further told by the Secretary that in addition to
the Unions who have taken up the matter with the Secretary Posts Shri Shiva
Gopal Mishra Secretary National Council (Staff Side) has also taken up the
matter with The Secretary Dept of Personnel & Training. Orders are awaited.
14. Regarding the benefits that accrue to the
pensioners due to Budget, it was told by the President that the Standard
Deduction of Rs 40000/- has been allowed in the present budget. The Secretary
informed the members that the exemption of interest income on deposits with
banks and Post offices increased to 50,000/-.This benefit shall be available
also for interest from all fixed deposits schemes and R.D. The limit of
deduction for health insurance premium and/or medical expenditure to Rs
50,000/-The medical expenditure in respect of certain critical illness raised
to Rs 60,000/-in case of very senior citizen to Rs 1 lakh. The Pradhan Mantri
Vaya Vandana Yojana extended upto March 2020 under which an assured return of 8%
is given by LIC of India. The existing limit on investment under PMVVY enhanced
to Rs 15 lakh. Regarding the other benefits available to Senior Citizens the
members were requested to go through the broachers distributed to them along
with minute to minute programme.
15. In respect of the implications of Long Term Capital
Gains Tax it was explained by the Secretary that LTCG tax has been reintroduced
in the Union Budget. Investors will have to pay 10% tax on profit exceeding Rs
1 lakh made from the sale of shares or equity mutual fund schemes held for over
one year. The ‘grandfathering ‘clause is the exemption granted to existing
investors or gains made by them before the new tax laws comes into force. For
more details the Secretary requested the members to go through the broachers
distributed to them along with minute to minute programme
16.
Regarding the schemes of Post Office vis a vis the interest rates the Secretary
requested the members to go through the broachers distributed to them along
with minute to minute programme. He made a special mention of Prime Minister
Suraksha Bhima Yojana (SBY) which is Accidental Insurance worth Rs 2 Lakhs at
Just Rs 12/- per Annum eligible age between 18-70 years. The insurance also
covers permanent disablement due to accident. The subsequent premiums will be
deducted from SB through Auto debit facility.
17 The third Annual General Body meeting of the
Association was proposed to be held tentatively on Saturday the 23th
June 2018, at Mumbai in the morning under the Chairmanship of Shri R Ganesan
Ex-Secretary Posts followed by Lunch. The venue will be intimated in due course
by the Secretary.
18. Shri D.P.Sukhsohale pointed out that despite
addressing PMG Goa for allotment of I.Q four times he was neither allotted the
I.Q. nor he was replied. It was unanimously decided to write to CPMG
Maharashtra Circle Mumbai with copies to Regional PMsG. Secretary will prepare
the Draft & circulate it to the Executive
Committee for their comments.
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. Shri S.P.Sardal extended vote of thanks to Shri R. Ganesan Hon’ble President
of the Association & Vice
Presidents and all the attending members for their active participation in the
meeting. Special thanks were extended to the outstation members for attending
the meeting.
President
Secretary
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